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tree68
| Posted by tree68 on Saturday, March 16, 2024 11:10 AM
I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black. Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons). Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too. The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles. Larry
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Wednesday, March 20, 2024 8:12 AM FWIW. WhenIwasyoungCP2816wasstillinService, with others, and passedtheendofourstreetregularly. CP2816canbeseenatTime27:30 in the following Film. Within weeks Streetcars would be gone. Steam still had a year to go. Thank You.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Friday, March 22, 2024 6:50 PM
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Backshop
| Posted by Backshop on Saturday, March 23, 2024 6:29 AM
You are correct. It seems like every loss of a laker involves sloppy welding procedures where the fire then spreads to the unloading conveyor belt, which runs the length of the hold in a tunnel above the keel.
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BaltACD
| Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, March 23, 2024 9:14 AM Backshop tree68 BaltACD Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think. I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black. Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons). Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too. The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles. You are correct. It seems like every loss of a laker involves sloppy welding procedures where the fire then spreads to the unloading conveyor belt, which runs the length of the hold in a tunnel above the keel. Isn't synthetic rubber composed of a lot of petroleum dirived compounds? Plastics use petroleum in their manufacture. The fractional distillation of the petroleum refining process has portions of refined petroleum being used in many manufacturing processes that one would not consider petroleum being involved in. Never too old to have a happy childhood!
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Erik_Mag
| Posted by Erik_Mag on Saturday, March 23, 2024 12:22 PM
Syntehetic rubber is indeed composed of petroleum products, espcially if your definition of petroleum includes natural gas and natural gas liquids. The Time-Life Science Library book, Giant Molecules, has good descriptions of the feedstocks for various polymers (i.e. plastics) and was written by someone very well versed in the field. Most plastics are essentially hydrocarbons, often with other elements such as nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine or chlorine added. Some exceptions include Teflon (PTFE) where the hydrogen has been completely replaced by fluorine and silicone where silicon replaces much of the carbon.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Monday, March 25, 2024 2:16 AM FWIW? A LOVELY Photo of a Builders Plate on ebay. Arkansas & Missouri Alco RS1 22 Builders Plate Closeup, June 10, 1995. The Builders Plate may not be the original. The Plate likely should have the Alco " Diesel " version as here used thru 1944. Scroll Down?? Thank You.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Thursday, March 28, 2024 5:47 PM OT. FYI. Martin Mars Water Bomber. Thank You.
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tree68
| Posted by tree68 on Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:44 PM
Wasn't long ago that they were available to buy. Forget the price tag... Larry
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Sunday, April 7, 2024 12:23 AM Thank You!
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Monday, April 8, 2024 1:48 PM The Eclipse Special. Back in 1963 CPR ran an ' Eclipse Special ' out of Montreal to get into ' The Path of Totality ' The train having CP 1800-8705 on the point. CP 1800 was the Star of this occasion. CP 8705 was one of two from Out West and a stranger in the MLWs and Alcos of the East. National Film Board was on hand to film it all. Long Ago. Thank You.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Monday, April 8, 2024 7:38 PM For the Modeller. CP 5174 P1 Twelve-Wheel Tender. Brandon 1937. CP 5174 Eight Whl Tender. Winnipeg 1947. P1. Thank You.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Saturday, April 13, 2024 6:20 PM SafetyFirst,TrackSide. ThankYou.
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tree68
| Posted by tree68 on Saturday, April 13, 2024 6:36 PM I've been startled by snakes a few times, once under a switchstand I was about to use, other times in my own yard. Fortunately, we don't have a lot of venomous snakes in NY. The timber rattler is the most common and can be found in many places. The Massasauga is pretty much limited to two locales (one just north of Syracuse), and the copperhead is most likely found in the Catskills. Had a Department of Environmental Conservation office once speak at a conference I attended. She was experienced in handling snakes, but related that one time she'd removed a small rattler from somewhere, but forgot just how flexible their jaw is as she held it behind the head. She didn't get bitten, but did suffer a scratch that hurt significantly for a while. Larry
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Monday, April 15, 2024 1:16 PM Engine 1077, Again. Thank You.
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Overmod
| Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 6:41 PM Some angry commentary on RyPN about that insurance clause. Be interesting to see what the underwriters would expect from an operating plan for that locomotive...
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 7:34 PM Retired,andTIRED. RanitmyselfbackintheNineties. Muchcouldbesaid,butNOThere. ThentheyexplodedaLocomotiveinCuba. ANDaCaseSteamTractorinOhio. Timetogo,for MANY reasons. IfsomethingeverhappenedwithaSteamLocomotiveinaPublicSituation surroundedby PeopleandtheirChildren. AndSoOn. UnderstandCN1392willnotbeoperating,either? SafetyFirst!Applies,inEveryWay. ThankYou,Sir.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Thursday, April 18, 2024 2:19 PM More Re Engine 1077. Time to repatriate MF&M No 1 and Dieselize. SAFER than Steam and Cheaper? A LOCAL Historic Artifact. Thank You
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Friday, April 19, 2024 1:02 AM FYI Morrissey,FernieandMichelwasaGreatNorthernRailway subsidiary. Scroll down to Surviving Equipment > Preserved > Diesel Diesel Locomotives of Great Northern Subsidiaries. Diesel locomotives of Great Northern subsidiaries: Diesel locomotives of Great Northern subsidiaries: Thank You.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Thursday, May 2, 2024 3:00 PM ThenNow. AftertheWarwedidnotownacar,andtraveled locallybyStreetcarorInterurban. SaltWaterLinersLeftandArrivedacrosstheStreet. TheStationisstillthere. It isnotthesame. Thank You.
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Overmod
| Posted by Overmod on Thursday, May 2, 2024 6:23 PM Even in 1915 the future belonged to the jitney. It's just become better organized since then. As they note at the end of the story, REM is doing the same thing that Montréal Southern could have done effectively enough to survive. But it does it differently, in different parts of the community, and at vastly greater cost than any private company could hope to expect. I confess I miss salt-water liners, too, but I wouldn't ride them any more, let alone often enough to bring them back in some form. Worse, I'm not sure we aren't better off not having them in their historical form. Where much of transportation is going, especially following wretched Euro-style 'subscription' models, is rideshare for last mile, light rail or hybrid/electric bus for trunks, and autonomous light air (10-15pax size) for regional -- feeding HSR and air for longer distances, and perhaps a revival of the Pickwick Nite Coach business for less expensive optional long distance.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Friday, May 3, 2024 12:26 AM
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Friday, May 10, 2024 7:57 PM
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Saturday, June 1, 2024 2:29 PM TTC Streetcar Derailed. Three Injured. Thank You.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Monday, June 3, 2024 10:25 AM Car 107 Restoration. Thank You.
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NDG
| Posted by NDG on Monday, June 10, 2024 8:48 AM Michipicoten. Thank You.
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tree68
| Posted by tree68 on Monday, June 10, 2024 12:15 PM
No scuttlebutt on boat sites as yet regarding exactly what happened. Probably lucky the lake was generally calm at the time. Larry
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